i know he was angry, but he didn't use his energy foolishly. so it was a year after that he was imprisoned. i became friends with his wife then, winnie mandela. and we continued to support each other over the years and over the oceans. and she would tell me how he was. he wasn't vitt uperative with t guards. i was part of hillary clinton's delegates when he was inaugurated. i sat there and watched the guards, who had guarded him for 27 years, sitting in the right sights, in the best seats, invited by mr. mandela. not to say look how you treated me. i'm free now and i can ya ya ya at you, not that at all. in fact, he was gracious, welcome. he said, this is south africa. this is for all of us. blac blacks, all of us, this is our country. >> it's so interesting to hear your reflection, because i haven't talked to anyone who knew him, dr. angelou, who knew him before he went into prison. people talk about the crucible the 27-year imprisonment was. you're reflecting he had this special grace in his heart and his soul even before he went into prison.